Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Ron Suskind says he originally saw Donald Trump’s candidacy for its “entertainment side,” Trump being a reality show actor. But since Debate 3, he thinks the GOP’s nominee is “a darker thing.”

“That last debate he was actually pretty good – not sniffing, speaking in full sentences – for the first half hour. But, in the end people said he lost becuase, in the end he would not accede to accepting the outcome. ‘I”ll keep you in suspense.’

Suskind disagrees. “That was new, that was an actual threat, to say, ‘I’ll tell my mob what to do on Election Day.’ That was like a mobster thing.”

“He does seem a little bit like he’s in ‘shippping’…’We’re in sanitation’,” Colbert chimed in.

“The idea is like, ‘You’ve got a very nice country here. I’d hate to see something bad happen to it’,” Suskind warned. “So, remember that on Election Day when you go to the polls,” he advised five days from Election Day.

“That’s kind of different. We’ve never had that. Not in my lifetime.”

Suskind visited the show to plug his documentary movie, Life, Animated, about learning to connect with his son through Disney movies. But Colbert kicked off the interview informing viewers “what a debt I owe you.”

In 2004, Suskind wrote an article interviewing member of the Bush administration including one aide who mocked Suskind and journalists in general…as being part of the “reality-based community.”

Colbert read from that Bush staffer’s remarks: “We’re an empire now, and when we act we create our own realty. We’re history’s actors and all of you will be left to study what we do.”

“That idea that there’s something that you want to be true, and then the reality-based  community – that sentence is what I based most of The Colbert Report on, for the next 10 years,” Colbert explained, generously.

“When you did Truthiness, you gave life to that,” Suskind replied, sharing the love.

“What you wrote about was the bullshit we can smell. I became the turd,” Colbert beamed back.