The third and final debate between GOP nominee Donald Trump and Democratic nom Hillary Clinton just wrapped at in Las Vegas. The 90-minute affair simulcast on national TV and the web was the most policy-heavy of the massively watched previous two debates, with topics ranging from the Supreme Court to immigration to tax police. But it ended like it started — with the candidates not shaking hands as is the custom in U.S. politics.

Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace did the best he could keeping the 90-minute debate from going off the rails from the beginning as the candidates landed their final (live TV) blows before the November 8 election.

Here’s how we called the action (and there was lots of it):

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:56 pm

Back in the really old days, the gladiator battles in the Roman coliseum sold out every night – but even they often didn’t end up as the kind of blood bath this campaign has been. Just so we set this up honestly – America, welcome to Las Vegas. Fox’s News Chris Wallace will be dealing tonight in the 6-segments of the debate = place your bets!

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:56 pm

With both Trump and Clinton behind their respective podiums, this debate is set up like the first one as more of a joint press conference – in principle, with split screens. With Clinton supporters Westworld’s Jeffrey Wright and Ted Danson in the crowd along with Trump fan Scott Baio.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:56 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:57 pm

If things had turned out differently in 2008, her Dad could be cheering on VP Palin to succeed him this year

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:58 pm

What can we expect from Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump’s final face-to-face of this bruising 2016 campaign where the surreal has become simply real and the previously abnormal just another news cycle of scandals, leaks and social media outrage?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:58 pm

Well, we know that the Clinton campaign have set things up tonight so that former President Bill Clinton and Melania Trump won’t meet up on their way to the family seats – and they didn’t as both are now seated

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:58 pm

We can be pretty sure that the ex-Apprentice host and the ex-Secretary of State won’t be shaking hands at the onset, just like in the second debate – though they might touch palms at the end.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:58 pm

And, if past performances are any indication, we can be fairly sure that the trailing Trump will have shock value guests in the crowd like the mother of one of the four State Department employee killed in Benghazi and go scorched Earth to scare and shame Clinton – i.e. can you say Benghazi over and over, her husband’s alleged and admitted past behavior and Wikileaks revelations on Wall Street speeches and deleted emails or third verse same as the first and second.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:59 pm

With an 8 to 10 point lead in national polls right now and good prospects in once solid Red states, Clinton campaign says that her big topics for tonight’s debate will be Foreign Policy, the Supreme Court, the economy, debt and entitlement programs, immigration reform and of course Fitness to be President. But really it’s going to be, as she told the New York Times Magazine this week, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse.”

Dominic Patten October 19, 20165:59 pm

Chris Wallace is kicking this off like a High School student council President debate – everyone be nice

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:00 pm

here with go with Debate #3 AKA the ulcerpocalypse as it’s known in my house.

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:01 pm

Chris Wallace looks to be making the american case for Brexit with his questions just kidding of course I don’t think the notion of a social security crisis is false.

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:01 pm

“Silence, please blessed silence”. Now let’s see how long before #blessedsilence is trending on Twitter.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:01 pm

On FNC Megyn Kelly is up at the back co-hosting the net’s coverage of the debate. She should have been a general election debate moderator this year but, after the blood war between her and Trump that so wasn’t going to happen – though she’s pumping Trump up a bit right now

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:02 pm

Just like he did in 2004 with Mosh, Eminem has swooped into this year’s election with a new tune. The ‘Campaign Speech’ song that the Detroit rapper released yesterday goes right after Trump. Ex-KKK head honcho and Trump supporter David Duke took to Twitter to say, among other things “for years Eminem has been poisoning the minds of our youth.”

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:02 pm

Here’s some of that so-called poison of the man who once praised Trump back during the 2004 campaign – Consider me a dangerous man/ But you should be afraid of this dang candidate/ You say Trump don’t kiss ass like a puppet?/ ‘Cause he runs his campaign with his own cash for the funding?/ And that’s what you wanted?/ A f***** loose cannon who’s blunt with his hand on the button/ Who doesn’t have to answer to no one?/ Great idea!”

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:03 pm

Speaking of Sarah Palin, the long time Trump supporter is there – maybe dreaming of what could have been

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:03 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:03 pm

In a normal Presidential election, a third debate is a dead letter office. But there is nothing normal about this year. Still, deep pocket donors who were at Clinton’s final Hollywood fundraiser of this election on October 13 told me that the former NY Senator was almost Zen about this last debate and viewed Trump as bringing nothing more than more self-destruction.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:04 pm

Trump and Clinton didn’t want to sit together as some have in past third debates – the bile they feel towards each other is real

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:04 pm

BTW – Sure was nice of CNN to have a “we’ll never be President” pre-Presidential debate between Rudy Giuliani and Mark Cuban tonight as a warm-up act. Not that they were exactly displaying the sober second voice, so to speak. “You’re wrong!,” the Shark Tank judge and HRC supporter exclaimed to the ex-NYC Mayor and Trump surrogate as the two started off going off the rails as Erin Burnett struggled to keep the tigers on their respective leashes. And after all that the Jeff Zucker run news net is going to have the boys back after Trump and Clinton are done and have retreated to their campaign planes.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:05 pm

No handshake!!

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:06 pm

I’m genuinely into Hillary’s Blofeld look for tonight’s devbate.

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:07 pm

Love how Wallace is telegraphing his opinions through his first question. “Does the words of the founding fathers mean what they say, or is the constitution a living document.” “How long have you been beating your wife Secretary Clinton?” personfied.

Not shade: Genuinely impressed by how he tried to set the tone through his own filter. Masterful even if I disagree entirely with his premise.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:08 pm

Clinton’s all over SCOTUS right now, playing to her base and channeling some Bernie Sanders with that anti-corporation and “standing up to the powerful” Hey, where’s my spilt screen? Where’s the Trump sniffles?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:09 pm

OK, Trump is channeling Jeb Bush with that low energy intro – and now he’s attacking Notorious RBG for attacking him

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:10 pm

Trump: “we will have a second amendment that will be a very very small replica of what it is now”. So… a collector’s edition then? 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:11 pm

Clinton likes guns, she lived in Arkansas afterall

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:11 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:12 pm

This all rather civil and wonky so far

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:12 pm

Did Trump take placid reaction classes for this debate?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:13 pm

This is so low key so far that if you are in LA and not watching the Dodgers vs. Cubs already, you will be soon

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:13 pm

If Trump wants to find a way to that magic 270 electoral votes to go for the win in November, he should talk Florida Florida and more Florida – no Sunshine State no White House. Right now Hillary has around a 4% lead.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:14 pm

Was the first sniffle of the night?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:15 pm

Gotta say, Chris Wallace has the moderating thing down solid – strong hand, good follow up

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:16 pm

And to give perspective, California’s former first lady says:

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Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:17 pm

No TKO here, kind of wonder if the gloves are really coming on

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:18 pm

Gotta fact check something: Trump mentions Chicago and lies about how tough the city’s gun laws are everyone drink. Even Chicago PD say the city’s laws aren’t that tough and most of the guns come from just outside anyway. 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:20 pm

“Using that kind of scare rhetoric is very unfortunate” – Clinton cautions Trump over abortion. And now the interruptions begin but Wallace cut Trump short

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:22 pm

Felt like Trump just repeated his Presidential announcement speech with his immigration and border wall building

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:22 pm

Big sniffle there Donald

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:23 pm

“We have some bad hombres here” – that’s the 6-word Trump bumper sticker.

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:24 pm

Or a t-shirt Dom

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:25 pm

Twitter war!

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:25 pm

Two versions of Trump’s meeting with Mexican President – ex-Celeb Apprentice host says it was great

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:26 pm

In jumps Chris Wallace in best Vice-Principal style -and I mean that in a good way

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:26 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:27 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:27 pm

How does Clinton tweet and debate at the same time? Oh yeah, Huma

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:28 pm

Did Trump just offer President Obama a backhanded compliment for being the top deporter?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:28 pm

Hillary Clinton just overtalked Chris Wallace – Trump, c’mon man, she stole yer gig

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:28 pm

Stop trying to make “bigly” a thing, Donald.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:29 pm

Did not see Clinton bringing up Wikileaks first – but she’s going for Trump through Putin

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:30 pm

Hillary just took her first swing of the debate as she sidestepped Wallace’s question

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:30 pm

Trump got a deserved laugh for calling out Clinton’s pivot

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:30 pm

Chris Wallace will shut you down audience

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:32 pm

“No, you’re the puppet” – that’s the Donald that laid waste to his GOP primary contenders

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:33 pm

That puppet dis was hard core.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:33 pm

No idea, no idea … yeah, I got it

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:33 pm

I mean Hillary’s puppet dis, not Trump’s.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:34 pm

“I do get to ask the questions”  – Chris Wallace. Yes, you do 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:34 pm

Is Vladmir Putin an immigration issue?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:36 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:37 pm

Will Putin become an economic issue in tonight’s debate?

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:37 pm

This debate is reminding me of why I adamantly refuse to talk politics unless there is literally no choice whenever I’m visiting my family for thanksgiving.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:39 pm

Look at Trump making notes, keeping a straight face – does that poll well in the swing states?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:39 pm

I’ve seen that face in the boardroom on The Apprentice – someone’s getting fired

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:39 pm

Chances are it’s Donald’s campaign manager ZING!

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:40 pm

“Trickle down economics on steroids” – I actually know but don’t know what that soundbite means

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:40 pm

Thank goodness Hillary didn’t try to make “trumped up trickle down” a thing again when given the in. 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:41 pm

What else is on TV tonight? This is like the last Obama and Romney match-up in 2012, oh wait, I can’t remember any of that

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:41 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:42 pm

Talking NAFTA is the most Trump has mentioned Bill Clinton tonight – is he saving it all for the last quarter like the Lakers used to?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:43 pm

Sorry but “You can’t” is no “You’d be in jail”

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:43 pm

Folks I’m sorry to betray my personal bias here, but Donald is straight up lying about the national debt going up under Obama, and more importantly is ignoring just what happened right before Obama took office that caused the debt to spike in the first place.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:43 pm

Now Hillary mentions Bubba, is this the WJC section of the debate? That’s a topic?

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:43 pm

I’m a fan of his bluster tonight but boy howdy am I going to be shotgunning mylanta by the end of this.

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:44 pm

HAHAH, Presidential Debates are whatever you want them to be Dominic. Anything is a topic so long as you lean hard enough on a sentence.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:44 pm

“Thank you sir” – Wallace nicely blunts Trump. He really is the best moderator this year!

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:45 pm

Speaking of which, what is my debate sherpa Dan Rather saying?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:45 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:46 pm

Rather nailed it, Texas style 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:46 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:47 pm

Then again, Bruce Campbell knows a thing or two 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:47 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:48 pm

“When I’m President” – Hillary Clinton

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:50 pm

“Excuse me, my turn” – Donald Trump and now he starts on the stats. But Clinton calls him out on being wrong

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:50 pm

My resume is better than your resume 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:51 pm

Hey, Celebrity Apprentice just got slagged – feels canned

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:51 pm

Donald is reminding me of this halloween party last year where this random guy interrupted a private conversation I was having, yelled at me that FDR was a Stalinist plant, then yelled at me when I tried to be like “hey what gives old bean” before storming off and declaring himself the winner of the debate. <<<< A true story.

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:52 pm

Also Hillary is cribbing from her website’s interesting new feature this week that compares her and Trump in a given year, re: that Apprentice dig.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:52 pm

Grab your TGIW wine – scandal time

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:53 pm

“we are gonna get to foreign hotspots in a few minutes”. Great! Europe has amazing public wifi JUST KIDDING. 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:53 pm

Speaking of Shonda Rhimes

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:53 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:54 pm

All that prep crumbling for Trump as he calls sexual assault allegations “lies” and “fiction” and says where’s my media coverage?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:55 pm

He walked into this and all Clinton is doing is a repeat of her Miss Universe move – didn’t anyone on TeamTrump see this?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:57 pm

Not a lot of Celebrity Apprentice fans out there tonight

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:57 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20166:58 pm

OK, I was wrong, Trump took a dodge on the sexual assault claims and moved into the emails and “crooked” Hillary pose

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20166:59 pm

This is like the Kool Moe Dee vs LL Cool J beef but all the rhymes are off topic and mention other rappers. And trump is his own hype man shouting “wrong” instead of “yeah boyyeee”

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:00 pm

Clinton determined to get Trump raging with a litany of his sins – Kellyanne Conway finally got him to just stand there and say “I love to talk about getting rid of ISIS” 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:00 pm

As she told him to stick with 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:01 pm

Overtalk nation 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:02 pm

When did Donald Trump discover talking points?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:03 pm

Isn’t this “give back the money?” move straight out of that Bartlet vs Ritchie debate from The West Wing” – in a different context?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:04 pm

Trump drops following up Clinton on giving back money from Saudi Arabia and others with a cul-de-sac defense of his Foundation

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:04 pm

Tax returns!! Attack line #17 in the HRC handbook

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:05 pm

I don’t know what you’re watching but Clinton has way better lighting than Trump on my TV

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:06 pm

It’s because Trump’s orange makeup absorbs light.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:06 pm

“Made with Chinese steel” – not a laugh line you hear in a lot of bars 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:08 pm

Deja voodoo – now Trump is recycling his no-promises line about supporting the GOP nominee if it wasn’t him

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:08 pm

Trump refuses to say he’ll accept the results of the election if it doesn’t go his way (which it really isn’t gonna do). That’s not scary.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:09 pm

“I’ll keep you in suspense” – Donald Trump on whether he supports American democracy

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:10 pm

Should Trump have gotten that Emmy for The Apprentice? Debatable – and I don’t mean this one

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:12 pm

On social media, Trump is all “drain the swamp” but not really mentioning it here?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:14 pm

BTW – who is tweeting from Trump’s twitter feed while he’s onstage? Or is that what he’s doing while seemingly writing notes at the podium?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:14 pm

MacArthur and Patton spinning in their graves line again – a Trump fave

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:15 pm

Trump revealing his serious military strategy acumen a week and change after having it pointed out to him that we do warnings because of civilians who might want to flee. 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:16 pm

This debate is like seeing the Stones or Paul McCartney at Oldchella – tunes you’v heard tons of times before and can hum along to but nothing new and lots of old moves

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:16 pm

Wrong

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:16 pm

Wrong

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:16 pm

Wrong

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:17 pm

SNIFF

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:17 pm

Another Celebrity Apprentice mention – Mark Burnett, protect your brand

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:18 pm

“You are the one that’s unfit” goes Trump and then throws the long awaited fresh meat to his base with Wikileaks references and pointing out her own campaign chair’s leaked comments about her

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:18 pm

“I’m just amazed that he seems to think… our allies launched the attack on Mosul to help me in this election.”

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:20 pm

“Bundles of cash as big as this stage” – might be my fav no-meaning line of the night

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:23 pm

Oh Chris Wallace, serious 3 AM Commender-in-Chief stuff question, really? Do you not know what debate you are at?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:24 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:24 pm

“Straight Outta Queens – an angry billionaire named Donald…” Clinton harks back to the 1990s again, kinda

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:25 pm

Chris Wallace wants America to know he’s not a “potted plant” and he will prove it

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:28 pm

Bring back Larry Wilmore to late night TV! Make America Laugh Again

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:28 pm

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:29 pm

Is this supposed to be over now? 

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:30 pm

It’s in extra innings just like LA hopes tonight’s game will be I SAY THIS NOT KNOWING WHO IS WINNING but #topicalhumor and #gododgers

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:31 pm

“We’ve heard this before” – yes we have Donald. All these eyeballs and no swelling Morning in America moment despite all the invoking of Ronald Reagan?

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:32 pm

Social Security is not going to run out of money in the 2030s everyone. This is factually untrue unless the government stops existing and laws are never again passed. 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:32 pm

“Bad hombres” seems to be the social takeaway of the night 

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:33 pm

See my post-debate post for just how right Dominic is about that.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:33 pm

Did he just say “you’re such a nasty woman”? Really man, after all you’ve said about women? That’s your Oval Office reaction?

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:34 pm

He did. Wow.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:34 pm

” I would like to end it on a positive note” – Chris Wallace throws in a new mini-segment. Platitudes galore are coming

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:35 pm

Why is Presidential responsibility always characterized as “awesome”? 

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:35 pm

We began with “bad hombres” and ended with “such a nasty woman.” One industry Trump is definitely good for is America’s meme manfuacturing sector. 

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:35 pm

Clinton had her bullet points, Trump is on his — is this the way you want it to end America?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:36 pm

Non-sequiturs

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:36 pm

Chris Wallace says thank you and tells America …well, lots of you have already voted

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:36 pm

Dominic, it’s probably “awesome” because “trill” or “ballin’ so hard” didn’t fit in the time limits.

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:37 pm

Handshake?

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:38 pm

No closing handshake between Clinton and Trump – kind of says it all. That’s it for us, see ya in 2020

Ross A. Lincoln October 19, 20167:39 pm

Well here is my closing handshake for you, Dominic. *Shakes*

Dominic Patten October 19, 20167:40 pm

BTW  – Gloria Allred is holding a press conference tmrw with, to quote the press release just sent out, “a woman who accuses Donald Trump of victimizing her with inappropriate sexual conduct”