Ellen DeGeneres has made it no secret that she didn’t enjoy her time as a judge on Fox’s American Idol half a decade ago. But she really let loose on The Howard Stern Show today. The satellite radio host asked her straight up if she hated and DeGeneres didn’t mince words.

“As a fan of the shows, it doesn’t matter that I sing or I know anything about pitch or anything, I’m like everybody else at home. It’s ‘American Idol.’…So I thought I’m gonna represent those people at home that have opinions,” she told Stern. But, she said, “I just thought, like Howard says, I can’t break this person’s heart. Let somebody else do that.”

DeGeneres also opened up on a range of topics, from how Bradley Cooper’s attempt to be helpful “ruined” that selfie from the Oscars, and how she’s “baffled” by Caitlyn Jenner’s views on same sex marriage which Degernes said she doesn’t “fully understand.”

One highlight: for those of you following tabloid reports that her relationship with Porti de Rossi is collapsing, it turns out they do too. “We’re kind of flattered. Because for awhile no one cared about us,” she says. “And we thought ‘oh, lesbians aren’t worthy of tabloid stories.’ So now we’re kind of flattered that they even care about us.”