In our third and final installment of our video series with American Crime and Transparent showrunners John Ridley and Jill Soloway, the two discuss the differences in working for a streaming service like Amazon versus a traditional broadcast network. In Soloway’s case, Amazon is extremely hands off—“I have one guy, his name is Joe, he barely ever comes”—she says of the studio rep she deals with. In Ridley’s case, he says ABC has been surprisingly hands-off with his creative vision.

Deadline’s Dominic Patten moderated their conversation. Other credits include producer Preston Northrop and camera operators Sal Castellanos and Armando Aparacio.