MSNBC played a deft round of Hide the Weenie the day before 2014 cable news ratings came out, when it leaked to the LA Times a memo from its president Phil Griffin to staff, in which he navel lint gazed about how “technology is continuing to drive unprecedented changes across the media landscape.” In the memo, Griffin said the cable news nets need to “be taking a hard, honest look at how we need to evolve along with it” — as though technology was the biggest of MSNBC’s problems and the reason it’s winding up the year behind Fox News Channel and CNN.
In a masterful bit of understatement, the LAT noted the release of the memo was an “attempt to get ahead of the bad ratings news” and acknowledged that Griffin did not reveal any specific plans to alter MSNBC’s lineup of left-leaning political talk-show hosts, except a vague promise to “invest more in programming and news coverage beyond the Beltway.”
CNN made a similar play last week, when it leaked a memo from chief Jeff Zucker, in which he boasted CNN U.S. had a “terrific year,” though one that was not without its challenges. The network, Zucker said, was ending 2014 in its best shape in many years, journalistically, competitively — and financially, which might be owing in part to its end-of-year campaign to cut roughly 8% of its staff – about 300 jobs — as part of parent Time Warner’s strategy to boost stock price.
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But CNN will close out 2014 with some all-time ratings lows. In primetime, the network has delivered its worst-rated year in total viewers and its second-lowest in the news demo. In total day, CNN clocked its worst-rated year in the news demo. On the bright side, it will wrap 2014 ahead of MSNBC in the news demo; through December 22, MSNBC lost 17% of its primetime news demo viewers, clocking a worst-since-2005 169,000 of them. To put this in perspective, this is roughly the size crowd as that of the Porcupine Caribou Herd in Alaska, Yukon and Northwest Territories, according to a recent photo census (which, unlike MSNBC, represents an increase in number — the largest population for the Porcupine Caribou Herd since the early 1990s).
CNN’s primetime news demo crowd — while bigger than that caribou herd, at 181,000 viewers — represents a 1% slide. Fox News Channel, meanwhile, is way out front with 302,000 primetime news demo viewers and, like the Porcupine Caribou Herd population, FNC’s population grew — by 3%.
As 2014 draws to a close, FNC celebrates its 13th consecutive year as the most-watched cable news network, though it too had its disappointments. In total day, FNC is down 4% in total viewers (1.05 million) and same percent in news demo viewers, though it finished laps ahead of its competition in both metrics.
FNC rings out the year ranked No. 4 among ad-supported basic cable networks in overall primetime audience, behind only ESPN, USA Network and TNT; it also ranks No. 4 in total. CNN and MSNBC are way back in the 20s and 30s.
“We’re going to keep opening up our aperture, while investing in original reporting on the broad range of stories that move and inspire Americans,” Griffin said in that memo to staff and LAT.
Speaking of stories that move and inspire Americans – how about missing airplanes? If you’re wondering why CNN stuck like glue to the news about the latest missing airplane last weekend, it quacked like an effort to goose year-end ratings. Back in March, when Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went missing, CNN enjoyed a big ratings boost with flood-the-zone coverage. Over two weeks, the missing-plane story goosed CNN’s total-day news demo numbers by 102% compared with pre-disappearance.
In that same period of time, MSNBC’s numbers dropped 10%.






Libs are known for their delusional behavior. It’s absolutely hysterical watching them try and spin MSNBC’s basically non-existent numbers.
“Libs” as you call them don’t need to watch a news network to be told how to feel about a subject. We know how we feel already. We know what’s important and what isn’t. Republicans on the other hand need to be reminded 24/7 that they’re racist, judgemental, angry, and in decline. This would explain Fox News’ ratings which, will start to drop when their viewers (mostly white, and in their 60’s and 70’s) die off and are not replaced. So goof luck to you and Fox News as you each fade (in the rapidly approaching years) into obscurity.
If they die off, who’s gonna pay your welfare? Quite a conundrum for you, eh? Speaking of racist, judgemental and angry, did you read your own post?
Love this!
You have no brains. Just spit
Invectives.
and what are the average ages of CNN’s, MSNBC’s or even any of the evening network newscasts? i’ll tell you, because you don’t know–they’re all basically the same. so before you cast your criticism — take a look at your awful and beloved MSNBC and horrible job they’re doing. if they were doing well, they would not be in the bind they are in. and that’s a fact.
Well said! Total ownage in 3 lines to that annoymous liberal coward’s psychotic rant.
This is why liberal never get any respect from me and others. Everything is back to race. The tolerance crowd that is intolerant. the faux outrage about unimportant things.
I always maintained that liberalism is a mental disease. That clown proved it again.
Welfare is paid for through our taxes. It’s like paying into a bank account and we draw on it in times of trouble. On top of that, most welfare is pensions, our just reward for decades of work. Get a basic education in simple economics before you open your mouth and expose your ignorance again.
Ah, yes, and taxes come from…PEOPLE’s WALLETS! The money doesn’t grow on trees. It is redistribution of wealth, not only from those who earn it to those who don’t, but from productive allocation of capital to nonproductive, thus weakening the overall economy and producing more dependent people. Which is why Democrats who understand all this favor welfare…it grows their base of dependents.
socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money
Bingo!
Of course you’re anonymous. You’re an idiot. That is by far, one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen. If you think Republicans are racist, you probably also think all white people love mayonnaise. Do us all a favor, and jump off a cliff.
priceless
Pot meet Kettle. There are probably just as many racist Democrats as there are racist Republicans. There are also many classless people. You, sir, fit the bill.
Ditto that………try reading Michelle Malkins’ “Hate comment of the day.” Those tolerent diversity loving liberals use every slur imaginable.
@Josephine. Perhaps but just for clarity, I was talking to the conservative, though I think both conservatives and liberals are media sheep asshats who refuse to compromise for the better of the country, a culture that you dear Josephine Penny are undoubtably and so thoroughly ingrained.
I don’t believe there are as many right wing racist as left wing. I really don’t remember any Grand Wizards of the kkk that were Republican Senators, like Democrat Robert kkk Byrd, or mentors for Bill Clinton like James William Fulbright who fought the voting rights law. I guess that is why a bigger percentage of Republicans voted for it then Democrats. Sorry, I know how truth and facts confuse and make hate America liberals mad. Still don’t see any reason not to tell the truth about the Democrats that are the real hate filled Americans
Actually many more. You realize the KKK was started by democrats. … and looking at the leaked emails from Sony execs, they have a very low opinion of minorities. Democrats like minorities for their votes. Period.
Fox News isn’t racist but it’s #1 with racists.
Heh. Hehheheh. Hahahahahaa! bwaAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA!!!
In other words, Liberals are so smart, they don’t need to be bothered watching the news while they are busy attending snooty wine and cheese parties, celebrity events, art exhibits and performances, protests, get out the vote (voter fraud) meetings,and other like minded get togethers where they plan how he rest of us should be living. ok we get it. The only problem with your analysis is that Fox News also leads in viewership among 24-35 years olds as well. Hmmmm.
Yes there is a whole generation in the works, ready to engage in the next stage of class warfare against the poor, who they blame for their problems but wouldn’t take those jobs anyway because of their sense of entitlement. Let’s not forget that.
Yawn
@Ping. If that makes you tired, try hard work sometime.
Dude, you are so boring and so pathetically parotting idiotic leftist propaganda, you’d put anyone to sleep. Get a life already. If there is a “class warfare against the poor” it is you liberal thugs are waging it. Telling the average person that they can’t be successful on their own without big out of control government telling them how to live and how to spend their money and handing them free stuff encouraging lazinees and depency.
Look at the povety records under any democrat/liberal administration vs any Republican or even remotely Conservative one. All economic disasters, inflation, market meltdowns, spiking poverty, widening gaps between the rich and poor, spike in welfare dependents, food stamp receipients, and low income high unemployment happened on democrat president/admin watch, and you needed a Republican to clean that mess, yet you ungrateful liberal idiots continue to blame others for your own mess and forget how they fixed your mistakes for you.
You are part of the problem. You are full of hate, resentment and anger. Not because of facts or legitimate issues, but because of your own ignorance and inability to think on your own and observe. You need someone else to do the thinking for you and then hand you out what you are going to say, and you parrot that propaganda. You are what is generally known as a useful idiot.
I am willing to be you voted for obama, twice.
@John. Sigh. I’m not a liberal or a conservative. I’m not defined by labels of partisanship or media like you and your moronic parties. I’m a free thinker who understands that while complete idiots like you continue to puff your chests up online, you are absolutely the LEAST likely person to ever -ever- work with someone else toward fixing issues with this country and there are many. Partisanship has ruined the country and you and your dumb family AND all the obtuse, nose-flipping liberals are too blind, too warped, too self-absorbed to see it because you are all the Kardashians of politics and world disorder. You are completely beholden to a media machine and the pawns of a political system that services banks. And furthermore, you are absolutely, undoubtably poor because you blame Obama and liberals, instead of yourself. I don’t blame Obama or Bush, I blame the systemic failure we call a political system, that I unlike you have weathered. I don’t hate you. I pity you and the people that have to endure you on a daily basis. I pity that the same sense of entitlement you lay upon others is the one that is consuming you. It is time to take a look in the mirror my didactic fellow and while you are there, contemplate accountability.
Underbelly of America typically don’t do wine and cheese btw.
Your final point is the scariest.
The truth is that Fox News is barely news. It’s all commentary.
Bingo……you hit the jackpot
Happy New Year Fox News! May you have many, many, many more years of great ratings.
You are probably right about the amount of comment on Fox. Problem is there is only so much news during a 24 hour cycle. People seem to like the commentary and the opposing POV presented. Many liberals get to make their points and people enjoy the give and take.
Some of the culturally based stories reinforce the traditional POV of older Americans. Big deal. Iconoclastic POV’s get old very fast. Change for change’s sake seems to many a waste of time and is dangerous.
Both MSNBC and CNN usually throw the baby out with the bathwater. They often lie while pitching their ideology. A wolf in sheeps’ clothing easily recognizable by many adults.
“snotty wine and cheese parties…”
I thought we were all on welfare?
@cookie
“snotty wine and cheese parties…”
I thought we were all on welfare?
Well, of course it’s not going to be the BEST wine and cheese.
There’s only so much you can buy on your EBT card.
Depends on which class of liberal you are talking about. There are the limousine liberal millionaires in the upper crust that are a small but powerful minority, then there’s the vast majority of their foot soldiers who slop at the taxpayer trough and vote themselves a living.
Most are; look at the numbers. The elites, you know, the one’s like Hilly who equate only having 5 houses as being broke, attend the snooty gala’s.
yes, our money buys the wine and cheese.
Do not confuse me with facts, my head’s already made up.
There is hardly any voter fraud in the whole of the USA. It’s about taking the vote away from people who are likely to vote Democrat rather than GOP. It is cheating , like the GOPs gerrymandering of districts to guarantee their own victories regardless of how insane the new boundaries look. Fake Noise has little or no following among the 24-35 demographic you quote so confidently and wrongly. They prefer CNN at 21% over Fake News (10%) Get some facts before you return, please. http://www.brennancenter.org/issues/voter-fraud
Apparently you haven’t looked at Illinois Democratic maps yet
It must be a traumatic experience for a young college grad, fresh from liberal indoctrination, to watch Fox News and actually hear BOTH sides of an issue.
God you are one ignorant troll
Just out of curiosity, whom do you hate more, conservatives or Islamist extremists?
“Republicans on the other hand need to be reminded 24/7 that they’re racist, judgemental, angry, and in decline.” [sic]
They don’t need to be reminded of this; they just need to be reassured that they are not alone in this.
I think YOU need to be reminded of “this” so you can feel superior about something, anything.
@sure. If you have to come to the internet to feel superior, the bar is very low. But please, continue to diagnose people you don’t know.
Considering the documented historical trend of the young college liberal crowd becoming conservative once they end up having kids and getting older, I doubt your fantasy will hold. Lol. Good luck.
Are they? cite something other than your opinion.
The age of the independent is coming. Until we have three parties, it doesn’t matter what side you are on. This country will continue to be divided down the center. Until then you can continue to attack each other and get absolutely nowhere. The only reason our country was once great was because we were not nearly as divided as we are now. You all bought it hook, line and sinker.
We can tell you don’t watch real news networks. You just wait around until the Liberal leadership tells you what to think.
Really? and a political party affiliation makes you all that? kind of like a color makes you what? lazy,or a thief? Liberals hate opposing views,liberals love to kill babies,democrats hate America…you see my radical liberal democrat,the very same party that hates being labled,does it all the time,like you do in your post,and it solves nothing,its why no one watches Mr.Maddow,or Wolfman Blitzer…when you become so hateful of the opposition that you cannot report news? no one watches you…ask CNN,MSNBC…thier take is a bit different than yours,they are laying off staff,and cutting budgets,ya think its because liberals are so smart they dont need to be reminded how smart they are? or is it really because no one believes they are getting the news from your talking heads at your networks? you are so quick to label your opposition as idiots and brainwashed….maybe,just maybe,you are wrong.
You said it all twice–Libs know how to feel–they just don’t know how to think!
Liberals love to advance minority causes, until their daughter starts to date one….
There, you admitted it: “We know how we feel already.” Proves that libs are guided by by subjective motives and “feelings” rather than by rational thought.
i think the ones dying off are the libs who sacrifice their children on the altar of abortion–that is why they have to indoctrinate the kids starting at the kindergarten level with the perversion of homosexuality–add that category to the mix(since they cannnot reproduce w/o help from those who feel sorry for them) and the left will be on the wane
I love it when Drudge links to a Hollywood article – all of a sudden, we have FOX News racists/extremists coming out of the woodwork.
You don’t belong here. This is a ‘Hollywierd’ news site. Go back to FoxNews.com – oh wait, they don’t want your comments either.
Look, ma, a liberal telling people where they can and cannot post! Why haven’t you been hired to edit people’s posts yet? You could use the work.
The race card!!! Who wudda thunk??
The sad thing is they have been posting the same tired responses for as long as I can remember. Like children arguing over who is first in line. Libs, conservatives, you are all the same. Shallow name calling babies.
Funny…an extremist calling others ‘extremist’.
Vaughn Leland. Now there’s man’s man name. (Snort).
Stop “feeling” and starting thinking! When the SHTF we may share some of our food with you…or maybe not. Keep spending other people’s money until then.
LOL so in other words you already KNOW everything and dont need any news agency to give you any information whatsoever to make up your mind one way or the other. I personally love new information about anything, any news story i happen to see on Fox i look for further information and i want to hear the left complain about it but i want actual facts not just opinion, feelings, conjecture, and temper tantrums.
Actually all it takes is to look at history critically and see that it goes in cycles. The news is not going to do anything to enlighten you. Just breeds fear and contempt.
A “baby boomer refresher for you…the years are 1946-1964. In other words you’re going to wait at least 20-30 years
““Libs” as you call them don’t need to watch a news network to be told how to feel about a subject. We know how we feel already.”
And that’s how they coincidentally come up with exactly the same talking points…
You may have your feelings and priorities affected by by a program but I’m sure I’m speaking for most people, who are just collecting information and Fox seems to be the most reliable source.
True: You know how to “feel” but not THINK. Liberalism is an emotion based ideology, which is why liberals constantly bleat (and loudly) about such abstract terms as “social justice” and “fairness” (which ironically are the Orwellian doublespeak of what they really mean and act as a rationale for confiscation and behavior management).
I prefer the philosophy upon which America was founded descending from the Age of Reason — even more ironically, what USED to be called “liberalism.”
Almost to a person every Republican I know their parents and grandparents were Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy Democrats. They became Republicans because of the long terms actions of the afore mentioned Democrat Presidents. So I am sure there are many young people who will someday be voting Republican off the known failures of both Clinton’s and Obama. Is is obvious to anyone except a blind and deaf man that hatred is what keeps the liberal progressive Democrat cause going..
Wow, if I were investing in these networks I would not want to have to wait over 100 years for Fox to drift into the sunset while the rest of the networks bled losses and viewership.
But I digress from the truth that the above poster has revealed though we all know about it. She speaks about “Feelings” rather than truths and facts. That is the liberal mantra ” I Feel therefore I am” and since I feel I have no further responsibility to see that reality takes place.
What a tired narrative! Bringing up racism only proves what lost uninformed souls liberals are! My guess you haven’t watched a minute of the terrible Fox News Channel! Maybe MSNBC should start with “TRUTH” report the truth of the Liberal agenda! Oh that’s right, like Gruber so eloquently explained to US, lie to the low-info Democrat public in order to get our agenda through!
that’s the problem with Libs, what they FEEEEEEL is more important than facts. They FEEEEL that evidence of data tampering and blatant manipulation of data concerning something like AGW doesn’t matter because they FEEEEL that there must be a problem because they CAAARE so much about the planet and AGW give them something to FEEEEL superior about. They also FEEEEL that anyone who disagrees with them is a racist, homophobe, hater, fill in the blank and it’s OK to call them names because they are so much more CAAAARING and that excuses any bad behavior on their part.
This is the best response I have read today. By the way “if it feels good, do it” and from Alester Crowley “Do what thy wilt and that is the whole of the law.” Both are Satanic in their origin.
Alister Crowley was not a Satanist. Easily googled. Second, Satanism is not what you think it is. Again easily googled. Try understanding the world and stop trying to pingeon hole everything you don’t understand.
Hopefully, with Obamacare you will be able to get you mental disease under control.
You “Libs” have become like a broken record. Your constant venom and hatred towards those with whom you disagree is at once pathetic and predictable.
It’s typical from members of the party of intolerance, grievance and entitlement.
However I’m afraid your predictions about conservatives and responsible citizens is off the mark; as was recently demonstrated in the November elections, it is you who are becoming endangered.
Aw wittle anonymous boy hiding his name. Pathetic pinko trash, fox actually presents both sides and always has a liberal to balance the argument, however ridiculous, MSNBC and CNN are total propaganda pap from the White House. Journalists are supposed to question those in power, not echo their political retoric. Sheep.
I bet you can’t even feel your brain – conservatives like to deal in facts & reality and leave our feelings to selecting football picks
But reality has a well known liberal bias
Anonymous, you are pathetic. So, I take it you are one of the 50 viewers of MSNBC and the Communist News Network. Happy New Year!
That is not the case because we have been observing a younger crowd respecting the facts, that they see the left wing media not wanting to report fairly about as well. Migrant Mexicans for one are devided knowing that the left is good for handouts but bad for the long haul for a free society as Berkley types have been gutting this world far to long with negativity. It always crashes as thats the reasons they left the home country. It will crash and it will stand stronger again in a decade or two as that is about how long it takes for the left to realize they played in to the hands of ignorance and pride like the G O P is doing all over again.
And that Anonymous is the problem. How you “feel” isn’t important, the truth and consequences are!
1. Racist is very overused these days, meaningless to everyone.
2. Judgemental, that is how decisions are made, liberal or conservative; another meaningless word.
3. Angry, why yes I do get angry at the idiots that have been elected to office. I work hard to take care of my family and friends. I don’t need well meaning idiots at the ballot box who only take my earnings and give it away to those too lazy or ignorant to work. If you feel strongly, do as a friend of mine does, donate all your salary to provide medical care for those who can’t afford it.
4. In decline, conservatives? You are ill informed, please site your source.
Sounds like one of those Mediaite liberals with the constant klaxon call of desperately wanting people to believe conservatives are a dying breed though based on Fox’s demographic performance, continues to run circles around the competition. Really need a new game pal as you’re not convincing anyone – don’t think even yourself.
You can try all you want to make ‘liberal’ a dirty word – it’s not working.
It’s working when you do it.
Works for me!!!
If you repeat a LIE enough……it’s still a Lie (except to the stupid….which would be you) HAGD!
Yeeesh…
Have you ever considered applying for a job in the Obama regime? You meet all the requirements. You’re arrogant, condescending, sanctimonious and elitist.
You sound like my son, the liberal, who, today, told me he has never heard of Jonathan Gruber. He watches msnbc, and reads huffpo to get the headlines. Never goes to Drudge. hmmm.
Intolerance, mean, always angry and vile hatred is all you moonbats have.
I want to use your pathetic attempt here to rationalize the poor showings of the non Fox networks as a sterling example of the mentality of ‘losers.’ Thanks
Haha hahahhhaaaa
That’s a Good one, dispirit too and angry and judgmental as usual libs as you claim yourself to be do the very thing they claim to hate.
Its called CBS Compartmental Brain Syndrome. We republican conservatives can recognize a mile away.
Yeah, that’s it. You certainly explained us.
Yes, we know you “feel”. Do you know how to think?
How pathetic can a person get?
It would appear that the ones “dying off” are those who watched msnbc and cnn,. which, btw, already reside in obscurity.
Along with every other left wing propaganda outlet.
Yes, libs know how to “feel”. It doesn’t matter what the data says, the facts don’t matter but if you “feel” then you must be a better person. If you “feel” for others you don’t really need to do anything because just “feeling” is all that is needed. When I see the libs give their homes to the native Americans (or for you progressive Texans–Mexicans) (since the land they sit on is really theirs) then “feeling” will really mean something. Now I get the difference between a liberal and a conservative. Thanks.
“we know how we feel…” – you nailed it, chowderhead. The left is nothing if not a giant squishy ‘feeling’ blob. Unfortunately, us adults have to constantly clean up your mess and try to keep the principles of liberty afloat.
If you could read a very basic graph you would notice that these numbers are for the 25-54 age group. No 60 or 70 year olds are reflected in the chart. Liberals don’t watch news. That is why they are corner the market on low information voters.
“Libs” as you call them don’t need to watch a news network.
And it shows.
I don’t watch the left wing nuts on MSNBC nor the right wing nuts on Fox. Give your hate classification of me, please.
Would also explain crushing defeat of liberalism in 2014 elections
Poor libby. Caught in the echo chamber of his tepid mind.
You Liberals and Democrats say how much you hate the rich. but have you ever seen a Democrat have a fund raiser at Taco Bell with regular people? the real reason CNN is in the gutter ratings is no one wants to listen to their Liberal slant. how about hands up obey the police .do not rob stores. Liberals have a mental disorder .
We do? That’s news to me. Gee. Thanks for telling me that I need reminding. WOW. You are so wise….
Ha-ha-ha-ha. Good one. Funny guy you are.
You must be one of those “libs” who think all those victim groups you bribe with government handouts are actually…….liberal. Do you honestly believe that average African-American and hispanic families give a hoot about global warming, your bogus war on women, gun control, or any of the other leftist causes you whine about? I doubt if genuine live and breath liberalism is embraced by more than one-fourth of Americans….and once all those brain-washed college kids move into the real world, even less than that.
“Libs” as you call them don’t need to watch a news network to be told how to feel about a subject. We know how we feel already
That is so funny. You’re not supposed to watch the news to find out what to “feel”. You are supposed to be gathering information so you can have an educated opinion and not just one made up of “feelings”. That is how children form an opinion.
Second, you say, “Republicans on the other hand need to be reminded 24/7 that they’re racist, judgemental, angry, and in decline”.
But I gotta ask you, aren’ you being “judgemental” when you call all repubs “racist”. Sounds like a pretty “angry” statement to me. Maybe you should spend a little more time gathering information and a little less gathering “feelings”.
See, you prove a point. Libs feeeeeeel. Conservatives think. You should try it for a change.
Great example of why you can’t fix stupid,stupid.
Your “feeling” instead of “thinking” is the problem.
Your inherent racism is hanging out…..
Wow talk about delusional. Libs are the party of hate. They preach hate, sell hate and promote hate. That is why nobody watches what they call “news”.
Democrats have already admitted they need their supporters stupid to get their agenda passed and we can see you fit the bill perfectly.
Another lib talking about the death of someone they disagree with. You people are despicable. I am so glad they country gave you people the shell the last 6 years. Now everyone sees how radical you are. No more hiding. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder!
Apparrently “Libs” are so resolute in their beliefs that they neither watch TV nor vote anymore.
I like this guy (anonymous). They always have an excuse. Have you noticed…nobody watches MSNBC then it’s because the libs are all geniuses and don’t need to watch the news. Conservatives are racists because they don’t like Obama, on and on. They’re really entertaining. Kinda pathetic though.
HAHAHA the lib doesn’t need to watch news. I guess they just make it up as they go along. Figuring how far off the deep end they are on everything, I can see that.
It seems the writer of the post does not understand demographic ratings, where Fox ranks so well. It is not “old white people” that audience figures are based on, but the desired advertising demographic group of people aged 18 to 54 generally. People who appreciate getting the facts, not just a one sided version of what is or is not happening.
Unencumbered by the need for pesky facts, liberals can ‘feel’ however they want about subjects they know nothing about…
goof luck to you too.
You “feel?”. Now that is definitive. How do
You quantify feeling.
AMEN!
Hallucinate much?
Wow! You are the dimmest bulb in the pack
I love stupid people.
You identified the problem in your comment… you know how to feel but you do not know how to think. This is why it is impossible to have a conversation with a lib and why leftie news outlets fail in the ratings.
So good ratings are bad?
Lib logic……
So you make up your mind on a subject, how? Read the daily DNC talking points and go with it? Lo-fo is no way to go through life.
Perhaps if MSNBC and CNN would stop hiring the clowns -Sharpton he’s racist as well, who can forget the Tawana Brawley debacle), or Maddow, Costello, Matthews, Harris-Perry, (the tampon wearing earring nut) Fat Ed Schultz–these folks wouldn’t know how to conduct a fair and balanced interview if their lives depended on it. The only half-way decent commentator -Anderson Cooper is leaving and I don’t blame him as even rats desert a sinking ship. Hint: it is NOT racism when facts are presented. Yes, I know liberals Hate these facts as they tend to get in the way of the garbage that is often spewed and treated as fact. Unless and until liberals can finally grow up and lay off the name calling just because others don’t share their “one size fits all” view of the world, viewers will continue to opt for networks that “tell it like it is” and FOX continues to be the best.
son you need to get your fact right before you open your mouth. Fox news grows every year and MSNMC and CNN fall behind because they do not spin the news to the left.
More delusional ranting from someone who probably thinks MSNBC host Al Sharpton is a paragon of virtue and insight.
Of course you missed the charts and graphs section of this article taht shows Fox News winning in the ‘news demo’ viewers ages 25-54. Hardly the 60 and 70 year olds you apparently wish would hurry up and die already.
jealous much?
That’s exactly what Jonathon Gruber says about you. You already know how you feel (a psychotic sense of moral superiority over others) and all they have to do is feed you the correct lies to reinforce your insane dogmatic belief system. In other words, you are a dupe.
I love it. When you can’t win the argument wish for the deletion of your opposition. Sounds a lot like the current regime’s MO.
Libs also like to hang out in smelly city park toilets under the stall doors, giving advice to conservatives, is that not so dippiest shittiest.
“We know what’s important and what isn’t.” And just what is that?
Racist much? Typical hate mongering race card playing low information liberal lemming who likes to project onto others what they really live and breathe. It’s no wonder liberalism is a mental disorder. Maybe that can be treated under the failing obamacare?
So sad—the new state you will live in when your “ways” take over..picture it, cops bad, thugs good, workers bad, takers good,, shall I continue? Hope you own a gun know how to use it or at least can protect and provide for yourself and loved ones—because the cops wont, and neither will your neighbors in your new world. Now go pray to your god from MSNBC, Al Sharpton…he’ll make it all better for you.
You’d think some of those 60-or-70 somethings would have also died off when this Fox News anomaly started its domination run over 13 years ago, but somehow it’s growing larger than ever. You’d also think the graphics above would show a close gap for the 25-54 age set by now. But note that Fox has twice the younger audience. One last thing overlooked is that, as people mature, utopian dreams of unicorn magic migrate to realism for those with maturing mindsets. A willingness to mature is the real progressivism.
… and there’s your problem. You “feel” about a topic, you don’t think and you certainly don’t reason.
Actually, they do.
They don’t know what to feel (thinking is not involved) until their media masters tell them.
Yep, the liberals are winning, just look at the last election… It’s like everywhere you look, you see you are loosing, and yet you cling to the “we are really growing” mentality
You seem to have forgotten that younger individuals will be taking their place. As they get older, have families and must deal with political reality the liberal POV becomes less and less tenable. Having your money confiscated and “redistributed” becomes less acceptable. Big government either ignoring you or pushing you around does not put a smile on many people’s faces. College costs could in turn cause some self reflection. Affirmative action will not be just a slogan but impact you and yours directly.
So don’t go off thinking Fox will be crippled by demographics. BTW they will be broadcasting in Spanish addressing the concerns of Hispanic families. Fear not; fair and balance will always have a place over ideologically constrained biased media trash.
Have you ever given any thought to the idea that although you may know exactly how you feel, you probably don’t have a clue about why you feel that way beyond something you heard? Further, the entire concept of “just knowing” something to be true or important reflects similar lack of an independent thought process. Please consider that the fact-free-thoughtless-but-all-knowing-highly-judgemental-self-righteousness reflected in your post is exactly what conservatives and libertarians find so offensive about progressive liberals. So roll out the ridicule and name calling….that’s the next play in your book after spouting talking points fails.
Dumbest post so far.
Dreamer.
13 years in a row. Spin it how you want. If a sports coach lost 13 years in a row they would have been gone years ago. Let me reiterate that for you. 13 YEARS IN A ROW. Facts and stats are a wonderful thing
Jerry Lingerfelt
Isn’t it tough to be in such a small minority. But I’ll give the Libs/progressives this, they are surely loud and obnoxious. I’m just saying “if you know what I mean, like” Got any seaweed?
Like when Delutional Fox News viewers try to spin that Ratings equal credibility? If that was the case, Sponge Bob would be considered 60 minutes compared to Fox News.
Argument by bad analogy. Spongebob isn’t on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Try again.
….and ‘delutional’ isn’t a word:)
And yet, Spongebob is more credible and has more ratings for a half hour than Fox News has in 24.
Wrong, James. Well, ok, come to think of it…SpongeBob does have more credibility for you…we all feel more comfortable with those whose world view is familiar to us…what makes us feel at home and comfortable. For you, it’s SpongBob. I don’t want to take that away from you.
Certainly more people watch Spongebob than ABCBSNBCNN et al and learn much much more than your lamestream drivel. Own your fail Obot.
We don’t have to spin anything. Nielson ratings speak for themselves. Also you guys have done plenty to contribute to those wonderful views with alarmist liberal loons tuning in to the show like the website Right Wing Watch that contribute to the ratings. Thank you for that!
As delutional (sic) as your government school / teachers union spelling competence.
That is what ratings are about you brain dead moonbat.
Just look at the bed wetters below. Liberal regressives always have to make excuses and hurl insults when the facts and statistics don’t go their way. Case in point below: because people watch Fox News, it means they are being told what to think, and the viewers are only old white people. What libs like that fail to understand is that MANY of the viewers of Fox News ARE in fact libs. Not only that, but of course most Fox News viewers do indeed get their information and news from multiple sources. But leave it to the left and sour grapes and soiled bed sheets when CNN and MSNBC get the beat down by Fox. They hate it and don’t think they don’t.
“Bed wetters”; “liberal regressives”; “sour grapes”; “soiled bed sheets”?
You, of course, are not hurling insults in any way, right?
Walter, all your posts on Facebook annoy your extended family, they just don’t tell you because they don’t want to hurt your feelings but it’s the truth. Your son-in-law is not watching Fox news because he agrees with you either, he’s doing it so that you shut up.
Lol. The libs seemed to have figured out and stopped watching their propaganda stream. It seems the Rhinos are still slamming their faces into the translucent window that is Fox propaganda…….
I am a libertarian for those low info Rhinos who will inevitably call me a liberal for hurting their feelings.
The GOP and DNC work for the same Globalist Oligarchs. If you haven’t figured this out yet you are in no position to discuss politics.
@Tim. Wish more people understood what you are saying because it is absolutely true.
What is your source for these parties working for the “same globalist oligarchs?”
Liberals don’t watch any cable “news entertainment” at all. That’s like making fun of us for not reading newspapers.
But sure …. whatever helps you sleep at night. We realize ALL cable nes is a joke. The pitiful thing is … you don’t.
Its amazing to me that there are so many people out there that think Fox News is the enemy when they have the highest rating ever achieved by a network in the history of Television. People aren’t stupid. If they are putting out false information, they would lose viewers and their ratings would go down. Fox has it right. Fox reports on a lot if issues that the other networks fail or refuse to do. If Fox makes a mistake, they admit it on the air and apologize, unlike many other networks. Then you have the blond hair haters. Fox has many commentators with many different hair colors. Get a life people. Grow up before you get old.
Now, now. Let’s not be too hard on Rachel Maddow, he tries as best he can.
180,000 viewers? Really?
I’ve been to bigger Italian weddings.
Heckuva job MSNBC and CNN. Don’t change a thing.
Of course Fox News is the most watched… while everyone else is informed by MSNBC, CNN, the BBC, NPR, etc… all of the republicans watch the SAME thing and use the SAME talking points rather than seek out news from multiple sources. It’s why they were shocked when Obama won the first time and shocked when he won the second time. It’s why they’ll be shocked come 2016 when they lose the White House. Again. It’s why they concoct elaborate conspiracies around voter fraud that doesn’t exist and faked birth certificates. Sure, they took both the House and the Senate, but that was due to liberals not turning out for the mid-terms rather than a mandate from the entire country. When met with reality, they simply can’t handle it because they really believed what they saw on their TV when Fox News was on. It’s actually a brilliant business model to build “news” around telling people what they want to hear. It’s not so good, however, for informing people in an intelligent way.
SorryforThem…..Liberals (did) show up in force at the midterms. Its the victim / free stuff crowd (who are NOT liberals) that couldn’t be bothered to vote.
More people watch the Tomato Channel than watch MSNBC.
the low information voter doesn’t watch the news…they are more interested in honey boo boo, kardashian’s boobs, sports, anything but news. and if they do watch the news, it might be a half hour on prime time nbc…..the state owned drive by media . those who watch networks like foxnews are more critical thinkers and have an attention span for more than a few minutes
Liberal or conservative — why would anyone watch this drivel.
But both MSNBC’s viewers are happy!
Wow. Almost 400 comments. I didn’t know that FOX News had that many viewers. I’m impressed! LOL
What a watered down metric to tout about…on average, across an entire year, just under 1.8MM viewers tune into the three hour time period Mon-Fri….out of about 300MM people….how does each show perform? On a show basis, these fall way down the list, and this becomes a non-story. But let’s pretend that this validates all of the name calling and accusations. Let’s keep fighting about that, while these talking heads keep counting their money.
since its not news shouldn’t it be in another category ?
The toughest question the other “news” networks have asked Obama is “What is your favorite ice cream flavor”. And you contend that Fox should be another category?!?
Propaganda is the best news business in town. Why would Rupert Murdoch feel the need to report real news, when working as the US Government’s media front man has paid him so well?
In as much as news has become fiction on the rest of the networks then I would agree put Fox news in a separate category called the Truth.
Funniest. Post. Ever.
MSNBC has to be a tax write off for NBC.
CNN’s coverage of the events in Ferguson was particularly lacking in facts and depth. So much so, that I was shocked when the Grand Jury failed to indict.
Lots of them went on to adopt their very own pit bulls.
Just remembering: The tipping point for Fox News Channel to gain and hold the audience was the start of the Iraq war in early 2003. The primary driver for viewership (other than the war itself) was Laurie Dhue’s incredible pair of legs. Soldiers in Iraq and staging areas kept their televisions tuned to FNC, and in turn FNC mainly had Ms. Dhue co-anchor during hours that would be ‘downtime’ for the most troops. Rupert Murdoch truly owes Ms. Dhue – and her wardrobe of mini-skirts, blonde hair, and amazing physique – an enduring “Thank You”.
13 years does not begin in 2003!
Math isn’t your strong suit is it?
When will CNN & MSMBS wise up and welcome independents and conservatives to ad to their commentary…Even “Morning Joe” has very few opposing viewpoints to balance their liberal bias.
When is MSMBC going to dump Al Sharpton?
Happy New Year!
“Morning Joe” has a liberal bias? I have two words for you: Seek help.
To anyone that pays attention and actually READS all the sides of a subject then yes morning joe is definitely on the left end of the spectrum.
I withdraw my previous comment. You’re beyond help.
Now that’s a fact filled rebuttal……
Those who are VERY VERY far left can’t see the only mildly left as anything other than conservative. Anyone to their right is conservative in their viewpoint.
In a word, yes
That will only happen when ratings become more important than ideology to the CNN and MSNBC pinhead. So don’t hold your breath.
Only a tiny fraction of the population watches any cable news channels. A typical prime time audience for Faux News is probably one third of one percent of the population. So why do we care about these numbers at all?
40% of Americans watch Fox News at least once a week. How’d the last election work out for you?
Only 60% of Americans even get cable TV. I don’t think that 2/3 of all cable TV watchers are watching Fox News (or MSNBC, et al). It just don’t add up.
You cared enough to read it
why not ask the advertisers that question? you’d better run out and get a copy of the NYTimes before they go under
What is this “Faux News?” I never heard of this channel, so please give more details on this.
Why Fox works? At the bottom of the list is the conservative slant to their commentary. Way ahead of that is the hiring of smart, professional personalities – Van Susteran (my favorite), Kelly, the Five and Outnumbered are actually sharp, interesting people to watch. They have a lot of opposition on the shows – Rivera, Williams, Colmes, Beckel, Holder (Tamara) get a lot of time and coverage. O’Reilly always has opposing views on his political topics. And they are lively – the MSNBC crowd just come off as dull and one-note and all look tired. And I can’t respect any station that gives Al Sharpton a show – not even if he were insightful, articulate and politically astute which he is not.
Barbara you said it all and very well.
And it doesn’t hurt that they can so often combine brains with beauty…
If CNN wasn’t part of a package it would no longer be on.
CNN was the only American news on in Korea and for more than a decade I watched them tear down America to garner an an audience in SE Asia. Broadcasting from Hong Kong, they were controlled and sometimes blocked by China, CNN described the US as corrupt, racist and unhappy. I would turn to BBC for balance! Even Korean news was kinder to the image of America.
And the only people watching MSNBC are the ones who can’t get enough of the ‘Lockup Raw’ reruns!
So what? When has popularity ever been a measure of quality? Justin Bieber sells more albums than Tony Bennett–does that make him a better singer?
Think Beiber will still be around when he’s 82? Bad analogy, dude.
Sadly, yes. And he’ll still be singing the same stupid songs. And his 70-year-old followers will still be serving death threats to his wife/girlfriend/boyfriend/lover.
You think the moment someone dies their records stop selling? Do the names Elvis and Sinatra mean anything to you?
His fans think so. And that’s where the truth lies . . . with the fans. If you have enough, you can be considered better than anybody.
Obviously to a lot of people, it does. But I’m guessing you know better than they do.
If only MSNBC’s scientists were as good as those for Fox News. Why, if MSNBC weren’t handcuffed by such outdated technology, like, uh, like….the, uh, thing that….uh…that stuff in the….Well, if the Koch Bothers hadn’t bought up all the Nazi scientists and their technology that…that…well it’s bad for the environment! Fox’s Nazi technology kills whales! Plus MSNBC has been sabotaged. Yeah! Sabotaged! That’s it! Nobody told us there so few people who wanted to watch leftists rage and bloviate. Who knew?! We were sandbagged! Boy, it’s SO unfair! If only we could get on a level playing field, THEN you’d see some numbers from MSNBC, you’d better believe it. Besides, we’ve only had 18 years to get things right! Fox News has only had….okay, 18 years. But….but….
Bingo!
Brilliant.
So, does anyone still wonder why Americans are such idiots? I don’t.
They elected Obama twice. I think I agree with you.
Americans are idiots. I used to defend America, being American, but it’s the truth. Because it’s a didactic culture that refuses to self-examine, compromise and overcome. Republicans, Democrats, they are all part of the same circus act. But I will tell you this – the world is full of idiots too. It’s not any better in the UK, they just think it is. Like I said, idiots. World over.
Sad, but I think you may be right.
But, sometimes, I feel like this country is being run by two schools: those that wear buttons reading “Don’t trust anyone over 30” and those that wear buttons reading “Don’t trust anyone under 30”. And there seems to be no compromise in sight.
Between CBS ABC NBC PBS CNN MSNBC RT and AL JAZZERA the American public still gets 20 to 1 ratio of liberal propaganda to Fox news conservatism on television.
True dat…
So much for that “Faux News” and “the Tea Party is dismantling” nonsense! Lol!
Wish we could post that chart/graph that shows that Fox viewers are the least informed/educated group that watches cable TV news.
Wish you could too. Perhaps if it existed…
For the record, this ignoramus has a B.A. in political science from Hofstra University and a J.D. from Boston University School of Law. Wish i could be smart like you though.
Phoney chart produced by a Soros/liberal group, where if you don’t believe in “global warming” you’re considered “uninformed”. Convincing only to people such as yourself.
LOL! You can find it, but it isn’t real. Much like a liberal’s compassion, tolerance, and intelligence.
Talk to the Daily Kos I am sure they have one made up like that and will be glad to broadcast it to the sheeple who believe that kind of pap.
That was a real study, and it showed that not only were Faux news viewers the least informed of all news watchers, they were less informed than those who watched NO news. Hahaha. By the way, there ARE ways to objectively measure the degree to which someone is informed, such as having a grasp on reality, something the Fauxers don’t have.
That was a real liberal study done by a liberal group to prove that people who aren’t liberals are stupid because they don’t believe in liberalism. To call it a liberal circle jerk would be redundant.
A real study? By whom? MSLSD? Typical libtard, no source, no credibility. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
And just who conducted that study? How did they make their estimate? How statistically valid? I have seen other studies which show the precise opposite.
Those who predicted Fox would falter and the TEA Party would die out always forget to add “I hope I hope I hope I hope I hope I hope…”
If CNN, MSNBC, HLN would report the honest facts instead of being a butt boy for the Democrat party they would experience much more success with people watching. The owners should be run out of town. They are nothing more than propaganda machines for the Communist Democrats. Wake up you “liberals.”
Fox News probably has a white audience and those people do not want to hear they are wrong all day long, being lectured by liberal news people.
Maybe they could stop being wrong? Nah.
Either they just don’t get it, or they get it, and don’t give a damn. People no longer want to be spoon fed your pablum. CNN like the rest of the failing media obama lapdogs, fail to report real news unless it meets their agenda, or bias, or unless forced to by FOX or other reputable news sources.
They would rather, every year, to keep laying off people and downsizing, than to actually report the news, all the news. They bury stories that do not fit their agenda, they manufacture stories every single day about who is the racist of the day. They go to the scene of where there is racial tensions and stir things up into a frenzy. Even when staring directly into the facts, they twist in the wind with their lies and suppositions. They manufacture, or edit things that distort the truth.
They can no longer be classified as a news source and they like many others should have their “press” credentials revoked, and be called what they have now become, mere bloggers with a socialist agenda.
What’s CNN and MSNBC?
HaHA….love it ….CNN (communist news network) and it’s subordinates MSNBC…tools of the progressive parasites..enjoy your collapse.
CNN doesn’t provide news. It is purely propoganda
Goes to show that if you side with propaganda the only way you can survive is by receiving playoffs via tax money. Look at NPR. They are horrible and get paid with tax money to push propaganda.
No one is fooling most of us because we are educated. We teach our children what the corrupt schools won’t. In the end the propaganda can only go so far.
CNN and MSNBC to me is government propaganda just like PBS so I refuse to watch, listen, or believe anything they say. I don’t blindly trust Fox but at least they sometimes fight for freedom and explain things sometimes with a fair balanced approach. You get that 0 percent of the time from other mainstream news.
CNN, MSNBC and HLN all have a couple of things in common…they manufacture their own shared information (doesn’t really qualify as news) and they broadcast spin, not news!
Talk about manufacturing news, Fox
Is the king of propaganda.
Apparently you don’t understand what the word “propaganda” means, perhaps a dictionary ~might~ become your friend.
Example?